[Latsras]

Well it looks like the party is over for Chris Moyle’s (CM). Did anyone hear his rant regarding comments made on this site? I have just read them and I did not see anything that was not justified, in fact I thought them to be quite mild. Obviously the comments touched a nerve, perhaps just a little bit too close to the truth for comfort. I believe that CM’s insecurities lie far deeper than being unable to accept justified criticism. CM knows the game is nearly up. His repeated statements of increased listener figures will not ensure all people believe this to be true. We are market savvy and know the formula and calculations used in gaining these figures is at best guess work.

CM stated listeners did not get “Celebrity Tarzan” as it was a parody of local radio competitions. I just cannot understand why CM believes that to parody local radio stations is still amusing. Mark and Lard did this fantastically. Local and commercial radio does not have the financial support of the BBC. The BBC must have spent thousands of pounds advertising the CM show. Placing TV adverts in prime spots and bill boarding all over the country. CM still aligns his show in competition with commercial radio which in truth is like McDonalds worrying about the “Gut Busting Burger Van” just of the A14. CM must realise his parodies are sounding very much like copying – which he did for months, much to the amusement of a late night talk show DJ being Ian Collins. CM copied – (Sorry, parodied) – this show for quite some time and would obviously be denied by CM, but I listened to both shows and heard it myself.

During his rant CM also said that if listeners did not like the show then turn off. But it’s not as easy as that. CM is paid via the license fee and has a responsibility to entertain. This is an arrogance that will not provide favours in the future and CM should be aware of this. Listeners need to care about the DJ and what happens to them outside of the studio and other projects completed. Constructed outings for something to talk about the next day are becoming transparent. He even ruined his Brits interviews in always wanting to be the star. This is probably a parody that we did not get. The Madonna interview was such let down after a huge build up. What CM meant to have said during the build up was - I am swearing in front of Madonna - Listen how * I am in front of Madonna – I just don’t care?

Where will he go from here? CM has tried TV but comes across as amateur and has no endearing qualities. CM can’t be spontaneous with his comedy and wit (Did you see Never mind the Buzzcocks) and relies too much on others for impromptu laughs. It’s all down hill from here.

One more thing. Self declaration of being surreal is quite simply another way of saying “I’m mad I am”. The CM show is not surreal. It’s just a little bit similar to his other shows from 10 years ago.

My email address is mailto:chrismoylesisshit@yahoo.co.uk and would appreciate comments which I will collate and send to CM.

Regards

Antony (a trucker who listens to 14 hours of radio a day)

[Latsras]

I have been censcored! Lines have been cut from the text.

work out my email from mailto:chrismoylesispoo@yahoo.co.uk

[Jono]

Yeah I couldn't be arsed to read all that, may be later...

[Sidders]

If you hover over the address, it tells you what it is in the status bar.

[stevefizz]

Well said and very true


its a same though

[David]

as I put in another thread:

someone on digitalspy summed it up quite well

Moyles was great when he was on Capital Radio many many many many many years ago, because he was the only DJ on there who didn't behave as though he was brain dead and controlled by a marketing committee. He also spoofed the jingles quite well which is something I hadn't heard ever done before on Capital at the time.

He then moved to really late nights on Radio 1 and bizarrely took some of the Capital spoof jingles with him...

Anyhow, he was good there so they gave him the afternoons and, as people have said on here, this is probably his golden age, he was genuinely funny without overstepping the mark too often.

Then... I think he started to suffer from the same ailment that afflicted Noel Edmonds and Chris Evans, he thought people were interested in what he said purely because it was him saying it.

The thing that made Moyles (and Evans, and I've heard Edmonds too) funny was that he did jokes which related to the kind of real life that the listeners would be familiar with.

But that began to change just before Moyles went to the Breakfast Show, he began to talk about meeting the Gallagher brothers, about parties he'd been to and celebrities he'd danced with. It just wasn't funny to hear, it sounded more like he was showing off and it certainly wasn't anything we could relate to.

It's sad because I remember this exact same thing happening with Chris Evans. In the early days I remember him having a big long running joke about what kind of bin liner was best, but by the time he moved to Virgin he would start telling unamusing anecdotes about how he'd just signed a contract for £2 million or something.

The entertainers turned into spoilt children, or something like that, they totally lost their grounding.

My thoughts are, the show isnt as good as it once was, but still by far the best thing on radio anywhere.

[microchip08]

Woah! Yet another rant topic!

Too long though, and I really don't like the e-mail address. Why not something like " mailto:Chrismoyleslikeshispizzaandsteak ... gov.sch.uk "?

[David]

I dont like you but I don't complain...



no wait, I do.

[LastMinute]

Well it looks like the party is over for Chris Moyle’s (CM). ... CM knows the game is nearly up.

I'm not sure where you get that from. The BBC have just renewed Chris's contract, which must mean that they have recognised his success so far and are confident that he will continue to create a show that a lot of people want to listen to.

A statistically insignificant number and unrepresentative sample of people on this board and others have expressed their opinion that they don't like Chris's style, or that they don't enjoy certain features of his show, or that they believe the show is currently not as good as it has been in the past. Is that a reasonable basis for Chris to change the show, or for the BBC to sack him? What about all the people on here who have said they love the show? What about all the people who haven't offered an opinion?

the formula and calculations used in gaining these figures is at best guess work

Of course it's guesswork - but it's well-established and consistent guesswork that applies equally to all radio stations. So while the absolute figures claimed for listener numbers may be largely meaningless, the trends that show more people are listening to Chris Moyles and Radio 1 and fewer people are listening to 'rival' stations are credible, I think.

commercial radio does not have the financial support of the BBC

You're right - it has the much bigger, wider-ranging and less restricted financial support of its advertisers.

CM still aligns his show in competition with commercial radio which in truth is like McDonalds worrying about the “Gut Busting Burger Van” just of the A14.

No he doesn't, and no it isn't. Of course Chris is going to celebrate favourable RAJAR figures and use the opportunity to have a dig at his friends and former colleagues at other stations, but it's nothing more than playful rivalry. The BBC does not have to compete commercially with anybody else, large or small.

CM also said that if listeners did not like the show then turn off. But it’s not as easy as that.

Of course it is. The other alternative for anybody who thinks they can do the show better than Chris is to prove it and take the show off him.

This is an arrogance

And it's entirely justified! If you accept from the listening figures that Chris's show is number 1 among its target audience, that means he's the best DJ in the world! There are six billion other people on the planet who can't do that show better than he does. If anybody else could do it better, they'd be number 1, surely?

Where will he go from here?

Have you considered that Chris is exactly where he wants to be? He has dedicated his entire life to radio and is a master of his craft. For him, right now, the Radio 1 Breakfast Show is as good as it gets.

The CM show is not surreal. It’s just a little bit similar to his other shows from 10 years ago.

Ten years ago Chris was doing The Late Bit on Chiltern and Capital. That was a totally different show from the current Breakfast Show.

Addendum (19/02): OK - clearly I've been had, as later posts revealed what Latsras was up to yesterday. I don't know why I got so worked up about this one. And there I was telling everybody not to feed the trolls! I think it's time I left. Bye
Brian

[Quincy]

i agree with the licence fee bit. we should be able to say what we like about the show etc. but thats it. i feel people are just going a bit overboard on slagging off the show now. ok its not as good as it once was but as david said its still the best thing on the radio.

[Fathomer]

cant we merge all the slagging off Chris posts into one or lock some of them?
Its getting silly

[Chrz]

I'm with fathomer, this is a fansite, not a place for people to post crap.

[MC]

LastMinute, I agree with everything you said.

[jamiec21]

One more thing. Self declaration of being surreal is quite simply another way of saying “I’m mad I am”.

I totally agree with that. As for the rest of you're post then I don't really agree, I think the show at the moment is great. However, I'll defend anyones right to slag off the show as long as it's not blatant trolling. I actually think Chris is well aware and pretty much accepts this and in fact, he's made a few humourous references to the fact that Chris the site owner, in Moyles' own words, "doesn't like us any more". And if people here slag of the show then he must surely have a right to reply. And I don't really care if he does than on the air or on here, personally I quite like the fact he does it on the air - thousands of other DJ's wouldn't dare. I quite like the fact that he was grumpy on the Breakfast Show, the slot where 'Deejaaays' are supposed to be all jolly and happy. Moyles has alwats been outspoken and if the time comes when he's not then that's the time to start saying "oh, he's changed, blah, blah, blah". But I've got no time for people whinging about him having ago and all this "how dare he, we made him what he is, how dare he slag us off". Balls to that.

As for the local radio parodies, which dominate the show from the features to the jingles to the "let's play a grest song from the 80's" stuff now and again, well Aled has come on here and defended them saying that is pretty much a proven successful formula, the ratings have gone up and the audience doesn't like change. Which is fine. But the challenge will be to judge when it all starts to get a bit stale and maybe we're nearing the time where the show needs to have a slight change, just to keep it fresh. Not a major revamp - certainly not in terms of personnel change or anything that drastic - but just to make sure they stay one step ahead of the rest.