Topher wrote:To work in a sales environment is to sell your proverbial soul.. the majority of our reps, with a couple of exceptions, are a useless bunch of tossers who couldn't sell a black cat to a witch and are more content spending time in the office checking emails than going out selling to customers while the rest of us take a pay cut because the company is struggling.
Ah sounds like my firm that does, not the pay cut bit but cutting back staff yet keeping loads of useless salesmen. Thankfully they're based on the floor above us so we don't have to see them all day long, ours don't come in the office to check emails, ours seem to go round each others to have a BBQ or go and play golf somewhere

boboff wrote:Um, sales is a hard job. It was the part I least liked doing when I ran a business. You get to drive for four hours to a Head Office, only to arrive on time, and then be kept waiting by some spotty teenager, just out of college, who does not have a clue who you are or what you do, even though that account represents about 30% of your total annual business and is the difference between making a profit, or putting a load of illegal immigrants out of work.
I once drove from Plymouth to Manchester to have a 5 minute meeting, to be told they wouldn't be selling our product that year, when I asked why they couldn't tell me over the phone, the stupid little * thought it was funny and said he preferred doing it face to face! TWAT.
On the other hand we employed one young sales person who when she sent on Holiday we had a tracker fitted in her Car. Over time it built up a picture that she left the house at 9 and went straight to her Mums for Coffee for a couple of hours, did a couple of calls, then was home by 4. We spent a fortune recruiting her, and she was not very honest. The fact she was blonde and had big Tits, hadn't come into the equation of why we employed her, nor the fact she was a Johova's witness!
You have to be a certain breed to be a sales person. You have to have an extremely high regard for yourself, want to be rich, and generally believe that you shouldn't have to work all that hard to get it. Most salesmen I have employed have ended up marrying rich women in there mid to late thirties to achieve this end.
Not the case in our firm, we know more than the salesman, some of them try to turn it round so that it isn't their fault even though they * up in the first place. For example they sell a job that has 8 hours on it, it ends up been 18 hours because the stupid idiot missed the basement as he didn't realise it had one. The premises was a pub

Regards, Johnny 1989
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