[Nicola_Red]

My favourite names are Ruby (my middle name)

So your full name is Nicola Ruby Red?

haha. strangely enough, Red isn't part of my real name...

[MK Chris]

Hasn't she already dropped a sprog anyway?

[S4B]

Hasn't she already dropped a sprog anyway?

I HATE THAT PHRASE. could only be used by men who have obviously no idea just how painful childbirth is or could be!

[Quincy]

they just pop out dont they?

[Zoot]

they just pop out dont they?

Here you go -

[S4B]

Girls help me out here?!!! Yudster you tell them!

[Yudster]

Me?! Having children hasn't ruind my life - although it has changed it a lot. Some of the changes are for the better, some are for the worse - but the things you gain by having children are experienced and growth and emotional development which you simply cant re-create in any other way. I fully understand and would support anyone who made a considered and thoughtful choice to remain childless, goodness knows I'm not one of those people who thinks you can't have a happy and fulfilled life without them - but if it was someone I really loved, I would be very sad that they would be rejecting a plethora of experiences which I would want anyone I loved to have.

Does that help slut4books? I fear it may not!

[Quincy]

i doubt any men want kids. they just get forced into it by their partners. if they say no the woman will leave them.

[Ballbag]

Au contraire Mincy, I'm very keen in continue the ballbag blood line, and produce an air to my manor. Alas Mrs Ballbag isn't so keen........ yet. She say she does want to one day, but not now. Which I fully understand, I too don't want to be tied down in the prime of my life. But we will reproduce one day....... and I can't wait.

[Nicola_Red]

I fully understand and would support anyone who made a considered and thoughtful choice to remain childless, goodness knows I'm not one of those people who thinks you can't have a happy and fulfilled life without them - but if it was someone I really loved, I would be very sad that they would be rejecting a plethora of experiences which I would want anyone I loved to have,

The politically correct term is childfree - childless implies that you are missing something. Not that I care too much about the terminology - I often describe myself as "barren" in a comedy Victorian-style way. I suppose those of us who remain childfree get to have experiences that those with children would be unable to have, practically speaking, so it all evens out.

[kendra k]

ahh, the kids debate! it's funny, because i'm becoming more inclined to be child-free. i think that's because i have death genes and i don't want to give them to anybody else. but whatever...
kids can be good, but parents who obsess over their kids can be tedious. but obsessive people tend to be tedious in general.

[S4B]

It was more the horrid phrase "dropped a Sprog" I wanted help, on although the other quotes are v helpful too. As a mother I can honestly say I wouldn't do it again (had twins first time round and that's plenty) and the first 9 years were a nightmare but I'm enjoying them much more now they can debate stuff! Mind you I do mysteriously spend an awful lot of time at work. having kids is a life choice and those of us lucky enough to have the choice should make it wisely.
I wonder if Pinky's now regretting telling us?

[foot-loose]

We call it "droppin a wain" up here.

Its a romantic image.

[S4B]

still gross. U pass a melon and see if you think it's like dropping anything!

[foot-loose]

Thankfully, its not something I'm ever going to have to deal with.

[Yudster]

parents who obsess over their kids can be tedious.

Oh. God. Yes. My advice - stay right off the Mothers and Toddler Group circuit, unless you want a inferiority complex that'll last the rest of your life. Competitive child-rearing starts there, and once you're sucked in.......

[MK Chris]

Hasn't she already dropped a sprog anyway?

I HATE THAT PHRASE. could only be used by men who have obviously no idea just how painful childbirth is or could be!

Or by people who don't really mean it and are just using it as a figure of speech?

[Boboff]

The current Mrs Bonoff described child birth as someone pouring boiling water in your La La for a couple of hours, what with that and the scissors cutting the taint, it was not a pleasant or easy experience for her, and it put me off going anywhere near that part of her for a good six months after.

[catherine]

I don't want kids, if i did get pregnant it would be by accident but i would keep it as i don't believe in abortion.

Names well my middle name is Amelia which i like but i also like my sisters names Emily, Hannah and Alice and my sister's confirmation name Cecilia and my dead nan's spanish name Asuncion... Congrats Pinky!

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

I would quite like kids but I hear they just magically appear... ahem (this will make sense to one person).

Also on a serious note did Foot-loose attempt to rhyme Anthony with Baby?

[foot-loose]

Also on a serious note did Foot-loose attempt to rhyme Anthony with Baby?

No, he tried to rhyme it with "bay-bee".

Its all in the delivery.

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

Bay-bee also doesn't work.

[Yudster]

The politically correct term is childfree - childless implies that you are missing something.

And "childfree" that I am missing something - ie freedom. Ok, I am - and so are you, you are missing being a parent. We both actively chose to miss these things. I'm not sure how "childfree" is any less offensive to me than "childless" is to you. Theoretically that is, I hope neither of us is offended by either term in reality.

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

saggy and non-saggy would be better?

[Nicola_Red]

The politically correct term is childfree - childless implies that you are missing something.

And "childfree" that I am missing something - ie freedom. Ok, I am - and so are you, you are missing being a parent. We both actively chose to miss these things. I'm not sure how "childfree" is any less offensive to me than "childless" is to you. Theoretically that is, I hope neither of us is offended by either term in reality.

Nah, course I'm not. But 'free' in the sense of 'without' doesn't associate with freedom, does it? Does 'wheat-free' mean that the bread is enjoying some sort of personal liberation that other bread doesn't have? I don't think so, I think it just means 'without wheat'.

I must stress 'childfree' is not a term of my invention, I just read it in a book I have. I do use it, but as long as you don't say "cold and dead inside" (which I did hear from someone on another msg board) it's all good.