[wildthing]

I just spotted this on BBC news.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5055724.stm
Is everybody having a go at radio 1 this week?
What do you think?

[Dr. Nick]

Well, Westwood *IS* a bit of a prat (IMHO), and his show *DOES* start out with samples of shotguns and pistols being fired... so you can see where they're coming from.

[bumheed7]

yeah, westwoods a twat!

[Sidders]

Westwood is a legend.

[Dr. Nick]

A legend in his own livingroom, perhaps, Aiieee??

[jimbo20]

"I would say to Radio 1, do you realise that some of the stuff you play on Saturday nights encourages people to carry guns and knives?", said Mr Cameron.

wot a load off bullshit

[jimbo20]

"I would say to Radio 1, do you realise that some of the stuff you play on Saturday nights encourages people to carry guns and knives?", said Mr Cameron.

wot a load off bullsh1t

[handyandy88]

Westwood promotes guns with his jingles. for that reason alone i don't listen to Radio 1 on friday and saturday nights. the fact i dont like the music doesnt come into it.

[Dr. Nick]

The fact that he thinks he's a 6-ft tall black dude with street cred and gangsta style is just a bit sad really. I thought he was a bit of a twit when I thought he was just another "hip, down in the hood Hip Hop DJ", but when I saw he was some wannabe pasty lanky Middle-class white guy (in Pimp my Ride), I just couldn't believe it.

[Dimon Trowel]

The fact his dad is a church minister is the point where he loses any sort of credability he attempts to have.

[stevotrash Esq.]

in reference to gun sound effects....

...hip-hop was a "vibrant" genre which sometimes reflected the "harsher realities of people's lives".

...so glamourising gangland murder is meerly a 'harsher reality,' said the radio spokesman before nipping off down starbucks for a cappawhumbachumba, leaving the obvious choice of a jewish man who used to go to public school to play lots of crappy gunshot noises and pretend to be al capone.

The arguement of course will be that it's only relflecting aspects of youth culture. OK, so in that case when are we going to see shows reflecting other forms of youth problems. Maybe a show promoting terrosim fueled by religion, self harm and under age pregnancy?

[Dimon Trowel]

in reference to gun sound effects....

...hip-hop was a "vibrant" genre which sometimes reflected the "harsher realities of people's lives".

...so glamourising gangland murder is meerly a 'harsher reality,' said the radio spokesman before nipping off down starbucks for a cappawhumbachumba, leaving the obvious choice of a jewish man who used to go to public school to play lots of crappy gunshot noises and pretend to be al capone.

The arguement of course will be that it's only relflecting aspects of youth culture. OK, so in that case when are we going to see shows reflecting other forms of youth problems. Maybe a show promoting terrosim fueled by religion, self harm and under age pregnancy?

Hosted by Shabaz offa Big Brother.

[stevotrash Esq.]

..maybe you could cover it with your 'press gang' style of news journalism

[Dimon Trowel]

..maybe you could cover it with your 'press gang' style of news journalism

Sure why not. News International would swipe up this scoop.

[adc_20]

At the end of the day - no one is going to take a gun/knife out with them because a DJ in his late fourties has explosions as some of his jingles - on a side note - did you realise he is 50 next octoberi believe it is! crazy!!

[MK Chris]

The fact his dad is a church minister is the point where he loses any sort of credability he attempts to have.

I can't see that at all - why does your dad's occupation have anything to do with your own credibility.

[Fathomer]

I agree Topher.

What does Cameron intend to do about it? You can't force it off the air- remember that Westwood plays songs that strongly degrade woman. No one seems concerned about that.

[Dr. Nick]

I think what Trowel is trying to get at isn't the fact that he was a church minister per se, it's that given his father's profession his easy life middle-class upbringing is completely at odds with the "street-smart" "pseudo-black" gangster image he protrays. In fact, it's quite clear he's faking it something rotten. Given that he's doing so, I can see that some in the hip hop community (including _real_ black people, especially those 'in the hood' so to speak, might see Westwood's faking as a mockery of their accents culture, music and lifestyle. Given that (as the BBC put it), these people represent the "darker side of life", it's not going to be long before someone (say), tries to shoot him.

[Dimon Trowel]

I think what Trowel is trying to get at isn't the fact that he was a church minister per se, it's that given his father's profession his easy life middle-class upbringing is completely at odds with the "street-smart" "pseudo-black" gangster image he protrays. In fact, it's quite clear he's faking it something rotten. Given that he's doing so, I can see that some in the hip hop community (including _real_ black people, especially those 'in the hood' so to speak, might see Westwood's faking as a mockery of their accents culture, music and lifestyle. Given that (as the BBC put it), these people represent the "darker side of life", it's not going to be long before someone (say), tries to shoot him.

I was indeed trying to make this point. Thank God for Dr. Nick, he makes sense of the situation.

But back on topic... Have you all seen Westwood's website yet? He had an audio intro on it by a 'gangsta rapper' that goes something like... " I'm going to get you Westwood... BANG BANG!"

I'm not sure if it's still on but it's obvious the man is a loon...

[Fathomer]

he has already been shot. You would of thought that would put him off.

[cutmasterfrost]

yeah, westwoods a twat!

HAHA
God Damn Chav Music
look at me i'm sik yo init

[Dr. Nick]

he has already been shot. You would of thought that would put him off.

I'd heard that...it's what the winky smiley was for

Sadly it didn't, though...

You wouldn't know what a great holiday was, unless you had a wet weekend in Cleethorpes to compare it against... "Tim" is DJ Cleethorpes....

[Dead-metal]

I'm a married man with 2 children who has a job and I support my family without benefits.

However since listening to The Rap Show I'm now a gun carrying drug dealer who shoots his rivals in the kneecaps.

Cameron, get a life.

[Dr. Nick]

Dead-metal, I agree with you to a certain extent. You are probably old enough, wise enough, and well-balanced enough (assumption), that you can't be so easily persuaded by things.

Kids aren't so lucky.. Look at the number of teenage pregnancies, smokers, drug-users, chavs and so on. Many kids are under a lot of pressure from glamour magazines to look good, their peers to try all sorts of things from sex to drugs, and from their icons in film, tv and radio. Would you let your kids see a film with really explicit sex or violence? Of course not. But you have the audio-version of it with people threatening each other, and sounds of gunshots, followed by car tyres screeching off, supposed to sound like a hit-and-run (for example).

You're spot-on that people 'of an age' won't turn to gun-crime because of eejits like Westood. But consider that some kids who are being told constantly by their parents that all that hiphop, guns and knives stuff is bad, may be being undermined every friday night by people like Westwood coming on the air making it seem like it's "just a darker side of life". It's even worse when you get these 'absentee' parents who just let their kids run riot. In their case, there's no moderating factors at all.

I don't fully agree with Cameron either. I don't know what the 'right' thing to do is. What's your take on it?

[Dead-metal]

Bad parents are to blame for bad children, in most cases. OK, so that's a generalisation but if you bring your children up to understand that life is all about rules and respect for them then most of these problems would be solved.

Children are children and adults makes the rules, children live by the rules. Some parents seem incapable of telling their children "No".

Parents need to "parent" and show what's right and what's "wrong"