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By dangle78
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Does anyone else feel that sending the entire team to germany including 2 producers and going to every england game is a gross waste of tax payers money. There are more than enough BBC employees covering the world cup and sending the breakfast show is merely a holiday for the team
By AliV
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The massive entertainment value is worth it.
By Capes
#233860
DAngle, stop going on. Realistically how much will it cost. So what if they go to the odd football match, they pay for the tickets so what is the problem. Also, don't you think they deserve it after all the effort and enjoyment both we and they get out of doing the show?
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By Adam
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dangle78 wrote:Does anyone else feel that sending the entire team to germany including 2 producers and going to every england game is a gross waste of tax payers money. There are more than enough BBC employees covering the world cup and sending the breakfast show is merely a holiday for the team


Would you say that One Big Weekend in Dundee was a waste of money as well? I would probably think that most of the bbc radio 1 and bbc ob went there for the weekend, or week.

No, I disagree with you. You could say that New York, The Chris Moyles Euro 2004 Shows were a waste - and anything else that Moyles took part in was wasteful - but to be honest with you, Chris and his producers have deliever some really good radio and I think back and go - hold on, ive enjoyed the lot.

As im sure you can imagine, its a big operation. Its like sending your tool kit to another country and not taking the right plugs or drills. The team are a unit and clearly function together as One. Granted, they havent deployed Dom Burns to Germany - for reason im not sure about - but surely it would be a mistake if they were to leave some people behind. It wouldnt be the same without everyone. I enjoy listening to dom and its a shame he wasnt able to go..

Take it respect that things like the world cup dont come around very often and with moyles as his probably peak and still climbing and serving his listners, I would suggest that its good money well spent for the customers that listen over the last few years.

Everything the bbc spends is loads of money but they are providing a service and catering for those who listen to radio 1. I read a story recently that the bbc have wasted money on chairs for their white city lot - I dont know why, but thats a waste and a bit rubbish.

It maybe a holiday for the team, but im sure if Aled and Rachel were to invite you over for a few hours, it wouldnt be a holiday. Im sure poor the Poor Assistant Producer is working her bum off to make sure everything goes to plan. As far as im concerned the show deserve the chance to broadcast from the world cup host country. This wasnt possible many years ago so now you can deploy anywhere and still make quality radio.

Who cares, as long as moyles is having a good time and carries on to present and produce a very good show - then im sure people and myself are being kept happy.
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By Dr. Nick
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How are the tax payers paying for it? It's the license payers! and, quite frankly, given the shocking state of the BBC, I only watch Doctor Who, and listen to Chris Moyles, so I feel that my license fee is being well spent by sending the lads off to Germany. :)
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By fish heads
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The argument is that the license fee is a tax in all but name.
By David
#233873
I would happily spend me £131.50 a year on the Chris Moyles show.

This is why we pay the license fee. Things like Radio 1 going to Germany make the station stand out from other stations. I am all for it!
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By Adam
#233874
David wrote:I would happily spend me £131.50 a year on the Chris Moyles show.

This is why we pay the license fee. Things like Radio 1 going to Germany make the station stand out from other stations. I am all for it!


i love it
room for everybody here
yes, all are welcome
yes indeed, i love them
fun, nice, life, youth, beautiful
i'm all for it
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By RussT
#233876
If the BBC just did what they had to all they would do is cover news and play interludes of clay pot making in between.
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By Dr. Nick
#233877
fish heads wrote:The argument is that the license fee is a tax in all but name.


Yeah.. I really resented having to pay the license fee, since I only watch about 1 hour of BBC a week... I agree it's a bit unfair.

But like the guy said, now I've started listening to Radio 1-*.. I'd happily pay £130 a year for the 3-hours-a-day of sheer entertainment we're all here to discuss.



*- Plus, I listen to some of the comedy on Radio 4... which amounts to another three or four hours a week.
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By fish heads
#233878
RussT wrote:If the BBC just did what they had to all they would do is cover news and play interludes of clay pot making in between.


And the 'Ignorant statement of the week award' goes to...
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By Dr. Nick
#233879
Wasn't it the BBC that used to have "From London to HolyHead in 2 minutes", and the RAF Helicopters doing aerobatics to Someone's symphony #40?

That was class. Stuff the clay pot making, give me dancing helicopters ;)
By Fathomer
#233880
If we don't have the license fee this countries radio and tv would be awful.
Like the US with adverts EVERY 5 MINUTES!!!! Really annoys me. If I was Kendra I wouldnt be able to watch the telebox
By Bake1986
#233887
I think if you're bothered about a hundred pounds or so then you need to liven up. In terms of radio and TV entertainment, Moyles is the most enjoyable show in the UK, so quit moaning. Plus, remember that you're on a Moyles fansite, so did you really expect many people to agree with you :P
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By RussT
#233901
fish heads wrote:
RussT wrote:If the BBC just did what they had to all they would do is cover news and play interludes of clay pot making in between.


And the 'Ignorant statement of the week award' goes to...


It's not an ignorant statement, it's the truth.

The beeb get a load of money to spend on what they deem as entertainment. To be quite frank a lot of the stuff they churn out is of no interest to me. I think spending vast sums of money getting Graham Norton from Channel 4 was a waste and paying Wogan nearly a mil a year to read out letters from his listeners is equally wasteful.

If it was to be fair then it should be funded like Channel 4, which is a self-sufficient government commissioned channel.
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By fish heads
#233908
RussT wrote:The beeb get a load of money to spend on what they deem as entertainment. To be quite frank a lot of the stuff they churn out is of no interest to me. I think spending vast sums of money getting Graham Norton from Channel 4 was a waste and paying Wogan nearly a mil a year to read out letters from his listeners is equally wasteful.

If it was to be fair then it should be funded like Channel 4, which is a self-sufficient government commissioned channel.


Yes, no interest to you - but guess who pays the license fee? Not just you, and there are people who like Norton and Wogan. I don't see you complaining about the amount Moyles is paid because, I suspect, you like Moyles being on this site. All the Wogan fans wont give two chuffs what he gets paid, but half of them will harp on all day about how Moyles isn't worth 2p.

Thing is the BBC has to provide programming to appeal to all sectors of the community and because of the way life works some programmes that appeal to some wont appeal to others. At the end of the day the BBC is one of the most diverse and respected broadcasters in the world - and if you don't think that's worth £126-odd then shove it!
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By kendra k
#233911
Fathomer wrote:If we don't have the license fee this countries radio and tv would be awful.
Like the US with adverts EVERY 5 MINUTES!!!! Really annoys me. If I was Kendra I wouldnt be able to watch the telebox


haha. he's right you know. thankfully i have a tifaux which cuts out commercials, but it makes watching live tv a pain in the butt. luckilly, they aren't taking commercial breaks during game time for the world cup, sticking that adidas commercial 20+ times in the halftime. that's a blessing because then there's not halftime show, which would be horrible.

but commercials ruin television. we have pbs, but they're quite dull.
By handyandy88
#233924
Its not a gross waste of money. its VALUE-for-money!

The BBC want to do outside Broadcasts, to keep it lively. Its better than having them stuck in a dingy basement on Great Portland Street 48 weeks of the year (4 weeks for Hol).

And you think about it - for the quality of the radio you need equipiment. you need access to the BBC internal systems. you need satellite. its an extension of a studio. yes, they will have a backup in London incase something goes wrong, but they always have that. its a little bit more money (in radio terms) for a LOT more enjoyment. They say they are working, but the fact they treating it like a Holiday makes it much better.

I like it. i like the fact they are out and about and enjoying the show. It makes for Great Radio. and thats all we ask for our £130 a year.
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By Sidders
#233937
Moyles has 12 weeks holiday.
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By whytie
#233939
dangle78 wrote:Does anyone else feel that sending the entire team to germany including 2 producers and going to every england game is a gross waste of tax payers money. There are more than enough BBC employees covering the world cup and sending the breakfast show is merely a holiday for the team


Not at all, my only regret is that slaphead never got to go too. I bet he's secretly gutted. Poor bloke.
By AliV
#233980
I personally think the licence fee is worth it just for the CM show and Top Gear.
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By Adam
#233982
ive love to see the Chris Moyles Show accounts and see what their budget is like ... They must have loads of cash to send ...
By handyandy88
#233992
AliV wrote:I personally think the licence fee is worth it just for the CM show and Top Gear.


I agree totally. Add Holby and Cas for me tho.
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By RussT
#234033
fish heads wrote:
RussT wrote:The beeb get a load of money to spend on what they deem as entertainment. To be quite frank a lot of the stuff they churn out is of no interest to me. I think spending vast sums of money getting Graham Norton from Channel 4 was a waste and paying Wogan nearly a mil a year to read out letters from his listeners is equally wasteful.

If it was to be fair then it should be funded like Channel 4, which is a self-sufficient government commissioned channel.


Yes, no interest to you - but guess who pays the license fee? Not just you, and there are people who like Norton and Wogan. I don't see you complaining about the amount Moyles is paid because, I suspect, you like Moyles being on this site. All the Wogan fans wont give two chuffs what he gets paid, but half of them will harp on all day about how Moyles isn't worth 2p.

Thing is the BBC has to provide programming to appeal to all sectors of the community and because of the way life works some programmes that appeal to some wont appeal to others. At the end of the day the BBC is one of the most diverse and respected broadcasters in the world - and if you don't think that's worth £126-odd then shove it!


No that's what I'm saying ... I think this is a waste that is a waste ... but Moyles isn't. And as you point out...Wogan fans would be the opposite.

My point was they won't please everyone with their expenditure but they should appeal to a wide enough audience that everyone is happy with something.

Special events like this Germany thing are extra expenditure but I'm sure they're budgeted for in Moyles' yearly allowance not just off the cuff things.
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By fish heads
#234036
RussT wrote: but they should appeal to a wide enough audience that everyone is happy with something.


In an ideal world maybe but you have to be realistic. Take comedy for example - look at the majority of BBC1 sitcoms on Friday nights. They throw the net out trying to appeal to a vast audience and trying to make everyone happy and end up completly missing the mark. It's a nice idea, just not practical.

Everything can't be appeal to a wide enough audience, otherwise everything just gets diluted down and goes against what the BBC is known for. When you appeal to a specific audience then you focus that programme to be the best it can be, and thats excatly what the BBC does. There are enough of these targeted shows so that everyone can find shows they enjoy, rather than everyone having to enjoy every show.

Tue and Wed are up