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By MK Chris
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This one couldn't be though, it's being held entirely in public. I follow it as much as I can on Twitter (if you're interested, @benfenton of the FT, @dansabbagh of The Graun, @Selkie, @IndexLeveson are the timelines I tend to have open if anyone else is interested, I suspect you may be if you're not following them already SAV1OUR...)

Coulson's up today (and Lord Rothermere, the tax evading Mail owner). Rebekah Brooks tomorrow.
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By Yudster
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Given that the only things which can come out of Leveson are recommendations which have no teeth and no-one involved is in any way bound to follow them (so they won't), Leveson is actually just a massive waste of money. All it will achieve is the confirmation of what we already know - ie that there's a hell of a lot of appallingly bad practice and corruption in the media and in public services. No shit sherlock. But do something about it? Not a chance.
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By MK Chris
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Yudster wrote:Given that the only things which can come out of Leveson are recommendations which have no teeth and no-one involved is in any way bound to follow them (so they won't), Leveson is actually just a massive waste of money. All it will achieve is the confirmation of what we already know - ie that there's a hell of a lot of appallingly bad practice and corruption in the media and in public services. No shit sherlock. But do something about it? Not a chance.

That's true, but when you remember the reasons for the Inquiry being set up in the first place (i.e., a big public outcry over breathtakingly appalling practice - including the hacking of a young murdered child's phone), the government didn't want to set it up, but it had to. I would certainly hope that the pressure to implement any sensible recommendations will be big enough to force them to do it - after all, Murdoch's papers at least - for the time being anyway - can't argue against it. They are blissfully ignoring what's going on (well, The Times aren't even doing that to be fair), but they aren't fighting it.
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Given the size of the public outcry over this scandal I had high hopes(maybe naively) that something would actually be done to address the underlying issue this time, but it looks like they're doing an amazingly good job of brushing it under the carpet as usually happens. It's extremely frustrating to watch.
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By MK Chris
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What part of it do you think they're brushing under the carpet? It's a very public inquiry that has been quite dramatic at times... yes, some things should have happened already (an investigation into whether or not Jeremy Hunt is in breach of the ministerial code as a bare minimum), but the inquiry itself is being conducted fairly and reasonably.
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Topher wrote:What part of it do you think they're brushing under the carpet?

The part where Murdoch and News Corp are guilty as hell, and trying really hard to get off the hook. Or so it seems.
I want to see the guy get nailed.
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By dimtimjim
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MadTheEddos wrote:I want to see the guy get nailed.


Thats some specialist pron....
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By MK Chris
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MadTheEddos wrote:
Topher wrote:What part of it do you think they're brushing under the carpet?

The part where Murdoch and News Corp are guilty as hell, and trying really hard to get off the hook. Or so it seems.
I want to see the guy get nailed.

Oh, I do too. I am very interested to hear the conclusion of the report before making conclusions like that though - clearly Murdoch and his cronies are trying to get off the hook, the question is whether or not the Inquiry buys it... I don't think they are.
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By a-moron
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dimtimjim wrote:Thats some specialist pron....


Said Kim Jong-Il lying on his death bed as his servants popped in 'Animal Farm' for one last viewing.
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By Yudster
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People always talk about boiling an egg as the easiest thing to do in terms of cooking, but I think getting a soft boiled egg right is really tricky. Scrambled eggs are far far easier, and also the best way to eat eggs. Yummy.
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By DevilsDuck
#464617
I do soft boiled eggs the Delia way and it works everytime

Bring the water to the boil and put the egg in, keep boiling for 1 minute, then turn off the heat and put a lid on the sauce pan for 6 minutes

Then you have the perfect soft boiled egg!

I am the king of scrambled eggs!
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By Bonanzoid
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Yudster wrote:People always talk about boiling an egg as the easiest thing to do in terms of cooking, but I think getting a soft boiled egg right is really tricky. Scrambled eggs are far far easier, and also the best way to eat eggs. Yummy.


Surely a fried egg is the simplest of the lot?
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By Yudster
#464622
DevilsDuck wrote:I do soft boiled eggs the Delia way and it works everytime

Bring the water to the boil and put the egg in, keep boiling for 1 minute, then turn off the heat and put a lid on the sauce pan for 6 minutes

Then you have the perfect soft boiled egg!

I am the king of scrambled eggs!


1 minute and 6 minutes will only give you the perfect egg every time if the egg is exactly the same size every time. My difficulty with boiled eggs is in assessing the size of the egg relative to the cooking time required. Also, whilst I completely agree that you should put the egg into boiling water, even if the egg has been brought to room temperature beforehand, unless they are of far higher quality than the free-range eggs you get in the supermarkets, the shells crack and it looks - well, not nice.

Bonanzoid wrote:Surely a fried egg is the simplest of the lot?


They are very simple I grant you, but I think the issues relating to hot spitting fat and the possibility of burning the edges, leaving uncooked white on the top, or having a yolk which is either overcooked or cold and completely uncooked in the middle, make for a lot more potential complexity than the requirements of scrambling.
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By DevilsDuck
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Hmmm, we get our eggs fresh from the farm down the road. Free range and fresh within a few days and a hell of a lot cheaper than the supermarket.
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By Yudster
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Better as well I bet, with nice thick shells that don't crack. None of the farms I use for other things do eggs really but when I can I get them from my friend - they are excellent, but the sizes vary enormously as she has a very mixed flock of hens! I think for most people though, and for me much of the time, eggs come from supermarkets where I am sorry to say the quality of even the best free range ones on offer is pretty poor on the whole.
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By Nicola_Red
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After fighting almost all day yesterday with the software that came with my new mp3 player (cheers Sony), I took to Twitter for help and a friend recommended a program called Mediamonkey. It is brilliant for someone with severe music-related OCD like I have - it flags up all the files with missing info and inconsistencies, is easily searchable, tags files in a way that actually make sense, you can even just drag and drop your own artwork in - I'm so pleased I found it. Yes, sad I know but these things make me happy.
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By MadTheEddos
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Yudster wrote:
Bonanzoid wrote:Surely a fried egg is the simplest of the lot?


They are very simple I grant you, but I think the issues relating to hot spitting fat and the possibility of burning the edges, leaving uncooked white on the top, or having a yolk which is either overcooked or cold and completely uncooked in the middle, make for a lot more potential complexity than the requirements of scrambling.

Whenever I fry an egg it HAS to be thoroughly cooked right the way through. I do that by just flipping it a few times. It means loads of burned crispy edges, but I'd rather have that than an egg that's not properly cooked. The spitting fat/oil issue is generally avoided by cooking the thing on fairly low heat and not standing too close to the cooker.
That's as technical as my culinary skills get right now.
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By Yudster
#464659
See I need a fried egg to have a runny yolk, but for said runny yolk to be hot all the way through (therefore cooked). That can be tricky - nine times out of ten if someone is cooking it for me and asks how I like it and I say "runny inthe middle" it comes not just runny but cold in the middle. Which is retchy. It can be hard to judge.
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