[mlawton]

What are you talking about?????

The first 2 hours of the show are always the best, then Aled comes in and the tone of the show and the comedy element completely goes to pot. Rachel is a very good producer and brings alot to the show, more than aled does anyway. They could do with getting rid of longmans phone calls though, I thought they had for a while but looks like hes back.

[aquadite]

aled is really funny and he's not at all 'over gay' whatever that means

i think they both give a lot to the show and it wouldn't be as good without either of them

[MacUser1907]

I thought the Westwood thing was irritating to be honest. Aled is a good laugh but I don't think he's producer material, not firm enough.

Rachel, however, comes off as a mother trying to control her petulant child, which I find hilarious.

And in Rachel's defence, Chris hasn't gotton over 6 million listeners by himself, he did it with Rachel at the helm. Could Aled do that?

[Jelly Babette]

Westwood is great! the queens of radio 1 make the best DJS, you would never guess it would ya

[fish heads]

And in Rachel's defence, Chris hasn't gotton over 6 million listeners by himself, he did it with Rachel at the helm. Could Aled do that?

What a rediculous argument. There is no way to prove Aled could or couldn't have done this - fact is Aled had a hand in it anyway, he's been on the breakfast show since the start as well as Rachel. You seem to suggest Rachel singlehandedly pulled the shows ratings up when it was a team effort

[MacUser1907]

I'm not suggesting Rachel did it single handed at all!!

I'm saying that whilst the show has grown in popularity Rachel has been the producer (steering the ship as it were) but she can't do that on her own (she needs a crew) and I'm not saying that Aled hasn't had a hand in it.

I think he's quite funny, just not firm enough to be the producer of the Chris Moyles show. Lets be honest, Chris would tear Aled apart and get his own way all the time and I think that would be detremental to the show.

Now Aled may be capable of producing the show, but he hasn't yet, so the truth is no-one knows whether he will be any good whereas we know Rachel's good because the shows so popular.

I don't see this as a ridiculous argument, was it the nautical terms you didn't understand? (p.s. was your spellcheck set to oft)

[fish heads]

I don't see this as a ridiculous argument, was it the nautical terms you didn't understand?

Yes, you are quite the sophisticated linguist.

My point is, you were saying "Could Aled have gotten the show up to 6 million listeners" and THAT is a rediculous point to make as it can never and will never be proven.

As for being "not firm enough to be the producer of the Chris Moyles show", how can we know that either? His on air persona is most likely no reflection of how great or how crap a producer he is and we can't go around saying things like this unless we have worked with him. Plus, why does the Chris Moyles show need to be "firm" anyway? If it was the Today programme, then I'd understand but Chris's show isn't really like that

[MacUser1907]

Sorry, was editing my message whilst you were posting yours. I think I've covered your points

Oh and..

My point is, you were saying "Could Aled have gotten the show up to 6 million listeners" and THAT is a rIdiculous point to make

..is not a point, it's a question, hence the question mark in my original post)

[fish heads]

(p.s.

My point is, you were saying "Could Aled have gotten the show up to 6 million listeners" and THAT is a rIdiculous point to make

is not a point, it's a question)

You're making a point through a question though surely. Otherwise why post it? And anyway I have answered the question with a resounding "how on earth could we know?"

whereas we know Rachels good because the shows so popular

So are all the Ticket Giveaways, Celebrity Tarzan, The Pub Quiz etc all good just because the show is popular? I've said before Rachel is a good producer, but just because she is a good producer and the show is good doesn't by association make her a good on air persona.

Lets be honest, Chris would tear Aled apart and get his own way all the time and I think that would be detremental to the show.

Again, pure speculation, but at the end of the day if you know anything about Chris Moyles and the show, you will know he is a true professional, no matter what his on air persona is, so this is unlikely to happen.

Hopefully you will stop editing your posts 50 times* and answer with some construcive points

*Yes I realise the irony of this being an edit

[Dickie]

I think he's quite funny, just not firm enough to be the producer of the Chris Moyles show. Lets be honest, Chris would tear Aled apart and get his own way all the time and I think that would be detremental to the show.

I hope you're having this argument in the knowledge of just how much the show and the links within it are planned.

[Jelly Babette]

lolzzy

[Quincy]

aled should go back to the gap tooth gypsy show

[Dickie]

lolzzy

Go annoy another message board.

You have no purpose here, all your posts show you don't really have any worthwhile agenda in being here so take your lolzzy and shove it up your man-gina Mighty Boosh!.

[MacUser1907]

OK just to reiterate, all this is just my point of view but..

You're making a point through a question though surely. Otherwise why post it?

..I'm asking the question to promote the debate further (which I believe I've succeeded in)

And anyway I have answered the question with a resounding "how on earth could we know?

Which I agree with, we don't know that Aled will be any good as a producer but I think Rachel is good as the producer and changing her for Aled may be detrimental to the show.

Yes the show has the features you've mentioned which I assume are collectively created by the team but I believe it's Rachels job to manage the delivery of what they have created and she does it rather well, which you agree with.

just because she is a good producer and the show is good doesn't by association make her a good on air persona.

True, but I think Rachel is more entertaining than Aled, just my opinion.

Again, pure speculation

Isn't the point of debate to discuss speculation and theory on a named topic?

but at the end of the day if you know anything about Chris Moyles and the show, you will know he is a true professional

I only know what I listen too and I've listened to the show for quite some time now (Best Radio 1 Line Up was Ball, Mayo, Mark & Lard then Moyles in my opinion) and I believe that whilst Chris may be a 'True Professional' when he gets a bee in his bonnet he does sulk and I don't think that's scripted (but I could be wrong, again just an opinion) and I don't think that Aled will be as entertaining as Rachel is at dealing with it.

So basically, this post was started by asking the question "Who would you prefer as producer?" My point of view is I would prefer Rachel as I find her more entertaining than Aled and I believe that the shows popularity is partly because Rachel is the producer (my opinion, not a statement of fact).

I do not believe my opinion/point is ridiculous, just not the majority thinking

Discuss.

[Jelly Babette]

I don't agree

[MacUser1907]

Sorry about the editing, my first go in a forum

[fish heads]

I do not believe my opinion/point is ridiculous

Well you wouldn't would you!

Here's another thought to ponder (not just to you specifically, but everyone), do you think that if Rachel's job was swapped to day producer or something of the same ilk, she would still have a speaking part on the show? I personally don't as she adds nothing to the on air experience when she opens her mouth, where as Aled was on the show when he was in a similar position of Day Producing, becuase he is entertaining to most.

[Quincy]

being a sexist pig aled is simply better because he is a man and not a wingeing old bint who just seems to spoil any fun.

[fish heads]

I believe that the shows popularity is partly because Rachel is the producer (my opinion, not a statement of fact).

I know this is your opinion, but if you asked the public why the show is so popular, Rachel would be way down the list. Chris Moyles at Breakfast would have succeded most likely whoever was at the helm because Radio 1 and Chris was ready for it. I'm not saying they don't contribute, but it's not IMO as detrimental as you suggest

[MacUser1907]

I do not believe my opinion/point is ridiculous

It may be niave however

I like you fish heads

I'll ponder your point this evening.

Must say this has been most enjoyable (it's my first time in a forum OK!!)

[fish heads]

I like you too - you stick to your guns and argue properly and it leads out into a proper debate unlike some topics can do around here.

Hope you stick around!

[Quincy]

lets all pash

[fish heads]

I don't kiss men. UNLIKE YOU!!

[Quincy]

[Sidders]

HE ADMITS IT!!!