When is the BBC making the switch to "Free Download?"

by **Ajescent** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:00 pm

Why is the Chris Moyles show still persisting with the whole Podcast- free download situation? It was mildly amusing at first but it's just outright irritating. No other show has made the switch but yet Aled or the show or whom ever still insists on it. I'm sure it's a trivial issue but it doesn't stop it from being annoying.

Has there been a change in other shows that I'm missing or is it still only the CM show?

by **DavidB1996** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:05 pm

I believe the Scott Mills Daily is now called a Free Download.

by **Nicola_Red** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:14 pm

Here, we like to call it the Geoff.

by **simonp820** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:57 pm

It's very annoying - I just wish they'd stick with 'podcast' - like everyone else in the world!

Come on Aled - grow some balls!

by **bmstinton93** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:10 pm

Don't start this one again

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by **swaddon1903** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:20 am

One of the Scottish football former podcasts is now called a free download.

by **Johnny 1989** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:39 am

Have Apple copyrighted the "podcast" term now have they, is the reason for the change?

by **Nicola_Red** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:46 am

No. As they discussed at length on the show, some parts of the BBC have decided in their wisdom that people don't know what a podcast is or how it works and they'll get more listeners by using the term 'free download'.

by **simonp820** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:01 am

Which I disagree with completely. My mum has no idea what to do with a 'free download' but knows she can listen to podcasts on her computer.

by **DarroM** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:06 am

Don't care if it is called a free download, I will always use the term podcast. I think the people in BBC that said what Nicola stated about not knowing is stupid since the term podcast has been used since 2005 and all of a sudden they decide to change it 6 years later.

by **dimtimjim** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:24 am

I agree. New things come out all the time. People either learn what they are or don't. Changing the name of something half a decade after its conception is bonkers.

I'm sure there must be some people out there somewhere who dunny know what a 'Microwave' is, but changing its name to 'magic food heating box' is not the solution for this (probably very small) collective of idiots.

A podcast is a podcast, you'll either get it or you don't. If you understand the concept - the name is immaterial.

by **CassieJackson** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:26 am

dimtimjim wrote:I'm sure there must be some people out there somewhere who dunny know what a 'Microwave' is, but changing its name to 'magic food heating box' is not the solution for this (probably very small) collective of idiots.

I think I will now change its name to "magic food heating box". When I'm not calling it a popty ping that is.

by **Nicola_Red** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:54 am

We had this discussion before, and Aled insisted that their research indicated that tons of people didn't know what a podcast was, and download figures had increased substantially since they switched to free download, so who knows. Personally I prefer to continue calling it the Geoff.

by **chrysostom** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:26 pm

Hoover > Vacuum Cleaner
Coke > Pepsi
Tannoy > PA System
Podcast > Free Download.

Plus 'free download' is more confusing. If anything it should be 'audio download'. There are loads of things which are free and can be downloaded online, ranging from software to images.

by **richbrown** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:56 pm

Except Podcast isn't a brand name. It is the term for what it is. Radio 2 have started with it now. Bleugh.

by **dimtimjim** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:14 pm

chrysostom wrote:Hoover > Vacuum Cleaner
Coke > Pepsi
Tannoy > PA System

is this meant to be a list of things which have changed their names?!!!

by **chrysostom** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:20 pm

Podcast was coined by Apple though, and a lot of people associate 'pod' with 'iPod'.

Wiki says...

[quote=wikipedia]It is a portmanteau of the words "pod"— from iPod —and "broadcasting". Despite the etymology, the content can be accessed using any computer that can play media files and not just portable music players. [/quote]

So technically the name is misleading and has been helped by it's colloquial use and prevalence.

Dimtim - It's a comparison of things which are known by other names despite being something else that's similar. I just meant to make the point that you can try to stop people saying one thing, but ultimately they'll resort to the word they're more comfortable with.

by **bmstinton93** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:21 pm

richbrown wrote:Radio 2 have started with it now. Bleugh.

You're 22, not 62.

by **dimtimjim** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:21 pm

chrysostom wrote:Dimtim - It's a comparison of things which are known by other names despite being something else that's similar. I just meant to make the point that you can try to stop people saying one thing, but ultimately they'll resort to the word they're more comfortable with.

Furry muff. Jus' wanted to check your workings!

by **Yudster** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:45 pm

dimtimjim wrote:
chrysostom wrote:Dimtim - It's a comparison of things which are known by other names despite being something else that's similar. I just meant to make the point that you can try to stop people saying one thing, but ultimately they'll resort to the word they're more comfortable with.

Furry muff. Jus' wanted to check your workings!

That's probably the best proposition Chrysostom has had for ages.

by **richbrown** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:36 pm

chrysostom wrote:Podcast was coined by Apple though, and a lot of people associate 'pod' with 'iPod'.

True. TWiT.tv is a huge player in the Podcast business and they tried since the early days, 2006, to change it to Netcast and they got nowhere. It is a free download... of a podcast.

Person 1: The Chris Moyles Show has a free download.
Person 2: What is it, desktop wallpaper?
Person 1: No a Podcast.

by **Yudster** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:40 pm

Explain that to Aled will you? He listens to you.

by **Jay's E (not neilt0)** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:45 pm

chrysostom wrote:Podcast was coined by Apple though, and a lot of people associate 'pod' with 'iPod'.

Nope. Apple did not invent or name the podcast. Adam Curry (former MTV VJ, living in the UK at the time, I think) invented the podcast and Dannie Gregoire came up with the name:

http://www.ameinfo.com/podcasting/

"Origin of podcasting

By 2003, a number of blogs already published audio online, and the RSS file format was widely used for summarizing or syndicating content. Using RSS, former NPR host Christopher Lydon attached audio files to his weblog. Lydon's full-length interviews, which focused on blogging and coverage of the 2004 U.S. presidental campaigns, helped to inspire Adam Curry's iPodder script. Indeed, blogs would become an important factor in the popularization of podcasting.

One of the first uses of the term "podcasting" was in an article in The Guardian [1] (http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/story/ ... 89,00.html) on February 12, 2004, though it didn't detail the RSS file format or automatic synchronization. In September of that year, Dannie Gregoire used the term to describe the automatic download and synchronization idea that Adam Curry had developed [2] (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ipodder-dev/message/41). Gregoire had also registered multiple domain names associated with podcasting. That usage was discovered and reported on by Curry and Dave Slusher of the Evil Genius Chronicles website. "

by **chrysostom** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:00 pm

Sorry, I meant Synonymous with apple.

by **DevilsDuck** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:45 pm

I * hate Apple...they ruin everything

*sits back and waits...*