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Postby What » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:32 am

He's coming across as a pretty cool guy. I got a little bit excited when he said "shit" live on air... and the way he just said a little "sorry" and shrugged it off.

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Re: John Cleese

Postby Travis Bickle » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:52 am

It's reasonably interesting to me, but how is this meant to appeal to the target audience? It doesnt particularly bother me as I am outside of that audience, but I can't imagine many kids enjoying this.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby MK Chris » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:15 am

That did occur to me Travis Bickle, but I don't give a crap because I think John Cleese is brilliant and I've never heard an interview where he hasn't been fascinating - and this is no exception. I will have to go back later and listen to the whole thing; I loved them talking about comedians that he loves. I agree with him about Peter Cook as well.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby Nicola_Red » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:17 am

That's the same thing I said when Tom Jones on - how come they can't play anything from before 1990 on the Golden Hour, but they can have a guest on whose stories are all about stuff they did in the 60s and 70s? But yeah, regardless, he's a comedy legend and I too wanna re-listen to the whole thing at some point.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby bmstinton93 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:23 am

Nicola_Red wrote:That's the same thing I said when Tom Jones on

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Re: John Cleese

Postby Wykey » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:36 am

Travis Bickle wrote:It's reasonably interesting to me, but how is this meant to appeal to the target audience? It doesnt particularly bother me as I am outside of that audience, but I can't imagine many kids enjoying this.


He is still voicing works 'the kids' would know - there was a text saying they only knew him from Shrek for example.

I'd have thought most target audience would know of him, and this can be a padding out of their understanding of who he is, what he's done, what his legacy is and so on.

Rethian to the max, some might say.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby Bas » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:08 pm

While trying not to sound too much like a lickarse, i was impressed at how good Chris & Dave were at interviewing him. Not the usual larking about Chris does when one of his 'mates' regularly pop in & a welcome break from the sometimes desperate flirting with any attractive female.
You got the feeling John Cleese was really surprised by it & enjoying himself immensely too.
He was on for over an hour & it didn't seem like it.
One of the best interviews Chris has done in ages.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby Wykey » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:18 pm

I find myself inexorably drawn to agreeing entirely and enthusiastically with the above comment.

+1 as people somewhere often say.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby richbrown » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:24 pm

Yeah, great interview. I was surprised to hear he was going on the show and was wondering how he'd fit in to the show's normal flow of interviews and banter but it was done really well and sounded great. A nice change from the normal kind of guests but at the same time the interview was fitting for Radio 1.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby chrysostom » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:24 pm

Cleese's work has recently been fairly desperate, and has seemed like he was chasing the money (no doubt to the expensive divorce) - my guess would be that his PR phoned up and offered it to Chris, and Chris wasn't going to turn down the chance to have Cleese on the show (be it related or not). I've not listened yet, but it seems that he did a great job of showing that he's still funny, and he's trending in the UK on twitter. Win/Win.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby shamrock student » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:31 pm

Interesting interview, always good to hear a straight talking guest on. Fair play to the team for bringing him on, always going to be slightly more risky than bringing in whoever is in the top 10!
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Re: John Cleese

Postby Candyman » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:41 pm

Nicola_Red wrote:That's the same thing I said when Tom Jones on - how come they can't play anything from before 1990 on the Golden Hour, but they can have a guest on whose stories are all about stuff they did in the 60s and 70s? But yeah, regardless, he's a comedy legend and I too wanna re-listen to the whole thing at some point.


Yes 100% agree, they have these people not considered as hip for todays yoof, but they dont do the same with the so called Golden Hour. I think Cleese is a legend love Monty Python, loved hearing about how he started and with the Footlights and with David Frost. I think it was a good education for the kids of how good British comedy was over 40 years ago. Overall Chris did a superb interview.
On the flip side as a Doctor Who fan thought I would listen to the interview on Fearne Cotton's show, cant stand the woman, but thought give it a chance. It was awful in contrast to Chris's interview, all that hype asking for very geeky questions, and asks 2 and one was about the film which Matt and Karen will have nothing to do with and will be seperate from the TV show, and that was pretty much it, awful, really awful, and as for her stupid forced laugh, sound like shes coughing up a hairball!! someone please gag this talentless woman what a waste of my time that was!!! :(
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Re: John Cleese

Postby Wykey » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:48 pm

Candyman wrote:On the flip side as a Doctor Who fan thought I would listen to the interview on Fearne Cotton's show, cant stand the woman, but thought give it a chance. It was awful in contrast to Chris's interview, all that hype asking for very geeky questions, and asks 2 and one was about the film which Matt and Karen will have nothing to do with and will be seperate from the TV show, and that was pretty much it, awful, really awful, and as for her stupid forced laugh, sound like shes coughing up a hairball!! someone please gag this talentless woman what a waste of my time that was!!! :(


That's because her interviewing ability is non existent, and so the vacuous frankly embarrassing questions are the only ones she's capable of.

Her 'interview' of Morgan Freeman is something that'll cringe long in the memory and not for the bit the newspapers got worked up about.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby Travis Bickle » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:07 pm

Wykey wrote:
Travis Bickle wrote:It's reasonably interesting to me, but how is this meant to appeal to the target audience? It doesnt particularly bother me as I am outside of that audience, but I can't imagine many kids enjoying this.


He is still voicing works 'the kids' would know - there was a text saying they only knew him from Shrek for example.

I'd have thought most target audience would know of him, and this can be a padding out of their understanding of who he is, what he's done, what his legacy is and so on.

Rethian to the max, some might say.


There are plenty of people I have heard of as well, but that in itself doesn't make them interesting to me. There is no way on earth John Cleese is 'target' and Chris alluded to that a couple of times as well. Rhys obviously wasn't convinced either.

But don't confuse what I am saying. I quite enjoyed it, and I am not criticising the decision to have him on the show, but I don't see how it would have widespread appeal to the target audience. Nic makes a valid point that pre-90's stuff isnt played in the first half of the Golden Hour because it isnt 'target' but we can have an hour of someone who is predominantly known for what he did 30-plus years ago telling stories from that era.

If I had my way all this 'target' stuff would go out of the window and I would just focus on what is entertaining and what would broadly be appealing to the younger generation or people with a youthful outlook. And if the The Chris Moyles show and the exec producers were happy to to have a non-target guest on the show and make it entertaining, maybe they can have non-target music on the first half of the Golden Hour and make that entertaining too.

I am quite sure that far more of the target audience encounter 1980's music on a far more regular basis than they do John Cleese.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby Travis Bickle » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:09 pm

Fearne Cotton invariably starts her interviews by asking the guest what they had for breakfast. And generally it's downhill from there.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby Wykey » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:59 pm

Travis Bickle wrote:There are plenty of people I have heard of as well, but that in itself doesn't make them interesting to me. There is no way on earth John Cleese is 'target' and Chris alluded to that a couple of times as well. Rhys obviously wasn't convinced either.


But the fact that it wasn't necessarily initially target material, combined with the informative and educative nature of the interview is what makes me say that turns it into something that fulfills it's Rethian target to be informative, educational and entertaining.

We're broadly in agreement, but I'd go the extra stretch - and I think Rhys was being sarcastic, I'm fairly sure it wasn't an official edict.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby Yudster » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:22 pm

Educational. I'm sure "educative" can't possibly be a word! Oh the ironing...
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Re: John Cleese

Postby Travis Bickle » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:26 pm

Wykey wrote:We're broadly in agreement, but I'd go the extra stretch - and I think Rhys was being sarcastic, I'm fairly sure it wasn't an official edict.


I have no doubt it wasnt an official edict, but I do think he was was gently making a point. As you say, I think we pretty much agree overall anyway.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby Nicola_Red » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:14 pm

bmstinton93 wrote:
Nicola_Red wrote:That's the same thing I said when Tom Jones on

Late night last night was it?


haha, if only. I was posting on my phone and sometimes it's hard to properly view what you've written - I was obviously just not concentrating!
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Re: John Cleese

Postby Wykey » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:32 pm

Yudster wrote:Educational. I'm sure "educative" can't possibly be a word! Oh the ironing...


Jesus tonight. I really don't know what happened there.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby bwfcol » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:18 pm

There are people that you just don't turn down, Cleese is one of them as is Sir Michael Caine. Legends.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby bmstinton93 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:27 pm

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Re: John Cleese

Postby R94N » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:28 pm

chrysostom wrote:Cleese's work has recently been fairly desperate, and has seemed like he was chasing the money (no doubt to the expensive divorce) - my guess would be that his PR phoned up and offered it to Chris, and Chris wasn't going to turn down the chance to have Cleese on the show (be it related or not). I've not listened yet, but it seems that he did a great job of showing that he's still funny, and he's trending in the UK on twitter. Win/Win.


I think he was on/is on the One Show tonight as well, so yeah, I think he could be just doing the rounds on the various shows, but that's like any guest that comes on the show. They have to stuff they want to sell and 'advertise' but they come on for a conversation as well.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby bmstinton93 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:29 pm

He was on Smooth Radio with Mark Goodier earlier as well.
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Re: John Cleese

Postby Emmy » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:11 pm

And on Richard Bacon's show this afternoon. He was well and truly doing the rounds today.
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