What's annoying you today?

[Dexy]

What's annoying me today? Hearing Chris Moyles do his high pitched voice from this morning's show. It's so annoying, and he seems to find an excuse to do it every other day. STOP IT CHRIS!

[James H]

What's annoying me today? Hearing Chris Moyles do his high pitched voice from this morning's show. It's so annoying, and he seems to find an excuse to do it every other day. STOP IT CHRIS!

Not just me that grated on then. Phew.

[Nicola_Red]

I find it funny on occasion, but you're right, he does overplay it.

[Travis Bickle]

I find it funny on occasion, but you're right, he does overplay it.

I havent heard todays show in full yet. What voice? The one he did in the handover pretending to be a child?

[Bruvva]

That'll never happen in the UK. In the US maybe, but who knows what goes on there. I believe in respecting people's right to their beliefs. The belief that God created everything is reasonably popular, and telling people they are "totally wrong" won't change anything.

No, certain views have to be challenged and dismissed. Creationism is a nasty attempt by religions to try and make it look as if their beliefs are scientific, they're not, they're beliefs and that's fine but creationism is in no way a valid scientific field. Even the European Parliament is worried about it creeping into modern life -

"On October 4, 2007, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe adopted its resolution 1580 titled The dangers of creationism in education. The resolution observed that "the war on the theory of evolution and on its proponents most often originates in forms of religious extremism which are closely allied to extreme right-wing political movements", and urged member states "to firmly oppose the teaching of creationism as a scientific discipline on an equal footing with the theory of evolution and in general resist presentation of creationist ideas in any discipline other than religion""

[DevilsDuck]

I annoyed at the price of chicken at Waitrose. You get less in the pack and pay about a quid more for it.

That's fowl, you should shop at the usual place... That would earn you a nice little nest egg!

[Nicola_Red]

That'll never happen in the UK. In the US maybe, but who knows what goes on there. I believe in respecting people's right to their beliefs. The belief that God created everything is reasonably popular, and telling people they are "totally wrong" won't change anything.

No, certain views have to be challenged and dismissed. Creationism is a nasty attempt by religions to try and make it look as if their beliefs are scientific, they're not, they're beliefs and that's fine but creationism is in no way a valid scientific field. Even the European Parliament is worried about it creeping into modern life -

"On October 4, 2007, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe adopted its resolution 1580 titled The dangers of creationism in education. The resolution observed that "the war on the theory of evolution and on its proponents most often originates in forms of religious extremism which are closely allied to extreme right-wing political movements", and urged member states "to firmly oppose the teaching of creationism as a scientific discipline on an equal footing with the theory of evolution and in general resist presentation of creationist ideas in any discipline other than religion""

I don't know much about the allegiance to right-wing politics so I'll have to claim ignorance on that. Looking at their website, they don't describe it as a science but do claim to be doing scientific research, but it's a lot to try to take in whilst at work! I am not the sort of person to dismiss anyone's beliefs out of hand.

[Nicola_Red]

I find it funny on occasion, but you're right, he does overplay it.

I havent heard todays show in full yet. What voice? The one he did in the handover pretending to be a child?

That's the one. He also did it in the 'Aled's Nursery' clip that's in the vault from a few weeks ago, which to be fair is quite funny.

[The Deadly]

I annoyed at the price of chicken at Waitrose. You get less in the pack and pay about a quid more for it.

That's fowl, you should shop at the usual place... That would earn you a nice little nest egg!

You do make an eggcellent point actually. The prices in Waitrose are a yolk!

[James H]

I find it funny on occasion, but you're right, he does overplay it.

I havent heard todays show in full yet. What voice? The one he did in the handover pretending to be a child?

That's the one.

The bit that annoyed me was when he was talking about Dave being on 5Live, at just gone 9am.


^ that.

[Travis Bickle]

http://blog.newhumanist.org.uk/2012/07/creationist-view-on-show-at-new-giants.html

WHY something as obviously BALLS as creationism given a seconds thought is beyond me.

"In this exhibition we also acknowledge that for some people, this debate continues today and we reflect and respect the fact that creationists today have a different perspective on the age of the Earth from that of mainstream science."

MAINSTREAM science? It's either scientific or it isn't. There is science and there are fairytales and creationism belongs firmly in the latter category.

Completely agree.

Stephen Evans at the National Secular Society explains why: "It's extremely disappointing to see the National Trust giving credence to bogus creationist explanations for this world famous heritage site. Visitors, many of whom will be children on school trips, expect to be informed at the new Centre, not presented with religious propaganda.

"We've seen how Christian fundamentalists have gained ground in promoting creationist nonsense in the United States; we must be vigilant and not allow those kinds of ideas to gain a foothold in this country".

And Brian Cox is even more succinct: "I don't mind creation stories presented as mythology, but to suggest there is any debate that Earth is 4.54 billion years old is pure shit"

I work with a couple of creationists and there is no reasoning with them. All you get from them is that "it's in the bible".

Religious types can believe whatever they like but the moment they put their views out in public they are open to be challenged.

[chrysostom]

I'm quite religious, but I think creationism is awful nonsense that has no place in today's society. People need to stop taking the Bible literally.

[DevilsDuck]

I get my chicken from the co(-) op

[The Deadly]

I get my chicken from the co(-) op

Thats just abysmal.........

[charlalottie]

Back to the creation argument, I'm a lot more religious that people would actually think. I don't go to a church but that's because I don't think it caters for my beliefs. However I still believe in dinosaurs and all that. In fact I go to bed in dinosaur tshirts so if the creationist what to mess up my bedtime routine, they can sod off.

[DevilsDuck]

I get my chicken from the co(-) op

Thats just abysmal.........

* off!

[dimtimjim]

In fact I go to bed in dinosaur tshirts

Nyyyyyyyyyyyyng.

**goes cross eye'd and reaches for cigarettes**

[Bruvva]

In fact I go to bed in dinosaur tshirts

You have more than one? Which dinosaurs? And don't say Barney.

[Latina]

Everyone in my building (work) just received an email informing us that the water will be turned off between 9 and 2pm next Tuesday, and that we should prepare for it to be off during the whole of that period. We have a storage tank that holds approx. 2000 litres, but they may not last long for a building with 50+ people.

We're being told, among other things, to limit our use of the toilets (or use the nearest public ones, which are half a mile away at the harbour) and use hand sanitizers instead of the sinks to wash our hands.

I'm not massively bothered about this myself, but am I right in thinking that we should really be sent home (or in this case, have the morning off) for health and safety reasons? It doesn't seem right being made to work as normal for 5 hours without a water supply. What if there was an emergency and someone needed first aid or something?

I'm sure there health and safety rules enforced for things a lot more trivial than this.

[chrysostom]

I'm a lot more religious that people would actually think. I don't go to a church but that's because I don't think it caters for my beliefs.

The similarities continue.

[chrysostom]

am I right in thinking that we should really be sent home (or in this case, have the morning off) for health and safety reasons?

If there's no running water, then it's my understanding that you can't have employees working in the environment.

Here's a bit more info

[Latina]

Thanks for that! I was considering replying and had been hoping to find some back-up like that. I don't know whether the 2000l of stored water maybe covers them though.

[Nicola_Red]

Back to the creation argument, I'm a lot more religious that people would actually think. I don't go to a church but that's because I don't think it caters for my beliefs. However I still believe in dinosaurs and all that.

That's pretty much me too - even though I have a giant cross tattooed on my forearm (and often one around my neck too), people are still sometimes surprised that I'm religious. The only difference really is that I do still go to church on occasion, although not often these days. With the creationism, I just wanted to play devil's advocate. I don't own any dinosaur T shirts, although I would quite like one.

[dimtimjim]

You'll get 3 or 4 cups-o-tea outa 2000L....

[dimtimjim]

Got a wedding to go to tomorrow - ruddy forecast is for mega rain. Humph.